I think its silly to think Jamaicans are assholes and then wander into the lions den thinking she stands a chance. What I have zero respect for is the White lady waving to me while standing under the Confederate flag over her front porch. But twice we lived in South Africa twice. But to others, it isn't. WebMost Jamaicans are of predominant African heritage, especially Western Africa. I lived in South Africa, spent a long time in Brazil and the US, but I think it just feels very familiar. So, you lived in South Africa for a time also? Xavier: Oh yes. I think theres so much to see that you just have to silence yourself and silence the critique, save the questions, and do ask them. It was too short of a time. The sense of humor is different, but its still very I think whats common to both countries, is that sense of humanity, where people are a bit more forgiving of each other and, yes, warmer and fuzzier. But even if you go into a church, just dancing and celebration of life, you know, kind of let everything that has breath, praise the Lord. Even though I dont speak the local languages, the rhythm of the local languages resonates with me and I cant explain it. This also exists in parts of Africa as well. They can deport us until kingdom come, but the UK is an extension of Jamaica. Thank you for the opportunity. What Ive noticed more is that yes they are blunt and straightforward for the most part and aggressive which is fine but it tends to be biased straightforwardness. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. Usually a toughness like this and materialism is surface meaning a deeper weakness.of some sort. Whats the attraction or place that if I come to Ghana, I should visit? Be careful. And I never came looking for it. That said, homophobia is not mean. Making purchases via these links result in a small reward for us at no extra cost to you. So they struggle to wrap their brains around that, unless theyve traveled. Yes. Total BS headline. Do Somalis,ethiopians And Eritreans Consider Themselves As Whites? So, I always get people wanting to make that connection. It was the African Americans. I think the experience in Ghana is much more Which one is it? Its like, you know, theres this Jamaican guy here, Audley Morris. What I am saying is that we have a culture of responding aggressively when you cross the line. Its not that obvious, but if you keep quiet, you can hear what Ghana is and hear what it represents. As for the hurt when criticized, this one had me laughing. So, that stew with that, and yeah. Yuh si dem (You see them) picking from a tree and just eat it. Kind of like the consistency of chewing gum, but its hard to imagine a lot of chewing gum. And I think that thats what really felt good. So, its not an attraction per se, but if somebody came to Ghana and didnt go to a market, not the craft market, not a tourist market, the market, which is like the mall for locals, then youd be missing the whole, youd be missing the whole beat. The gecko known as the croaking lizard (they make croaking sounds) in Jamaica is the most feared lizard. This is an offense that can get your food establishment blacklisted as word spread that you are stingy with the gravy. Who said Ghanaians hate us? Xavier: All right. Ruth: Yes. A few people eat Ackee, not many people know it, but it grows all over the place. The people who do eat it, eat it like a fruit. So, yes. One mans hustler is another mans entrepreneur. Xavier: Theres nothing else. [2] [3] [4] [5] History [ edit] If I said to you, Xavier, bwoy (boy), mi a (I am) get married next week enuh (you know), yuh (you) coming to the wedding? As a Jamaican, yuh seh, Bwoy mi have sumn book fi next week so, a cya come. (you say, boy I have something book for next week so, a cannot come). Ruth: Theres a time. Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. We just talk like thatpeople from other cultures are not used to dealing with any type of what they deem aggressive dialect so to them it sounds like we fighting , Kedesha Boothe (@KedeshaBoothe) March 8, 2020. They know which parts, they know that it has to open, as well. Personally, I much prefer this over America where you can be the President of the United States and still be called a N1gg3r and asked for your birth certificate. Jamaicans do not take kindly to insults. The whole family system, the matrilineal system of the Akan or the Ashantis. A distinction exists between Jamaican English and Jamaican Patois (or Creole), though not entirely a sharp distinction so much as a gradual continuum between two extremes. differences. Seek peace. I have a Haitian family member, for instance, who shared that it wasnt the White kids telling him to go back to his country. . So what is this rubbish about Bajans not liking Jamaicans? Thank you very much. I thank you for the education about Jamaican culture. In our series of letters from African journalists, Ghanaian writer Elizabeth Ohene looks at the fraught relationship between Ghana and Nigeria, . We dont have anything to compare with that in Jamaica. So when youre in Ghana, you see Jamaica much more than you would see Jamaica in South Africa, even though they both feel homey. U hate jamicans.ok. Why u hate them,talk make we hear you?. The irony of this is that, we are always the first to cite the iniquities of others and their countries without a room for us to accept our own. Listen to them, listen to how they interact. MOST racist people do not know that they are racists but simply just think and find a reason to dislike. But its all very tasty, very peppery, very flavored with different smoked fishes. WebWhat I have realized from going between both communities is this belief that my fellow Jamaicans hold that, most African Americans are lazy, unambitious and therefore deserve whatever negative attitude they may receive from a majority class. Unregistered Wedding Ring (@askanonpro) March 7, 2020. So, you know, I dont know what my experience would have been like as an outright expat, I dont know. From what I have observed it is a egoistic culture. How this translates is that, people dont speak and share their information with the speed at which Jamaicans speak and share information. And inevitably, they had met Jamaicans and whatever, but tradition got in the way of anything ever evolving because of their traditional gender roles. Ruth: Everything, everything. Ghanaians simply hate to be criticized (either constructively or non-constructively); we do not criticize our own people, leaders and country as much as we will do to that of others. The rest is history. Anyway. Toruk Makto (@BufbertBeefcake) March 8, 2020. I almost beat her up. THE TRUTH IS this is why you are disliked, hated even, by other islanders, your other side of the family. So if youre standing in a supermarket line, you can crack a joke and make reference to the child of the person in front of you. Maam. Yeah. I keep telling you, Matt. I could definitely see what Marty was saying. But like seriously? If you don't like me, say so and move along. Clothes, looks, being right, what they have or can do with a lack of intrinsic worth and emotional understanding. WebHaitians and Jamaicans, just like many other immigrants groups in the U.S, have tension because they see each other as competition. Although in Jamaica sexual So you get lost in a maze of market and thats where, thats the heartbeat of Ghana. Right? By the time you come, well link up with Jam-rock restaurant and theyll throw down a few musicians and we will just have a good time. But they also cant handled being cheated on for example. You can find, Lets think. Mi (I) nuh (no) can tell everybody say di (the) person died? No, actually you cant. So even though Jamaicans might look at seh, bwoy dem mek dem clothes tight eeh, (say, boy they make their clothes tight huh) because they do make their clothes tight here, to show their form, to show their body. Theyll tell you you cant take critisim and a second later youll give constructive critisim and theyll get defensive then turn it around on you and attack. So having the whole mixed thing, in fact here, they still call kids who are, lets say theyre half white or half black, they still call you half cast. I think a lot of people hear things said in Patois, or even just our accent when we speak English, and interpret the things we say a lot more aggressively than we might intend, but we're not mean at all. And you do have to watch yourself quite a bit. Now, if youre not a first-timer and you already used to the place, and I would say, everybody should try it, is Fufu. Therefore when those blunt comments or people do get some kind of blunt thing or criticism back, my god they do not take it well. If we hurt your feelings yesterday, were sorry, but thicken up that skin because Lord knows we might do it again tomorrow! Xavier: What is it like being a Jamaican in Ghana? The German accent is very aggressive. Sliding in beside a friend, asking someone if they can cut in front or rushing the gate. It comes from way back and it persists to this day. This is a very embarrassing topic and a difficult pill to swallow. We'll save so much time . Unfortunately, when honesty meets the innate expressiveness of patois, people (mis)interpret it for unkindness. Its important to note, however, that Jamaicans are predominantly bilingual and also speak Jamaican Patois (also known as Jamaican Patwa or Creole), which is a combination of English and some African languages. I understand it, but its there. I would believe that if you believe. If you hear people laughing, speaking in a way that youre familiar with, or that resonates with your soul. THE TRUTH IS, we were taught to hate JAMAICANS. Mi fraid (I am afraid), but people do and I Yes. It wasnt even, Bob Marley, yes, but there were others who were also important. Some of the stuff youre saying, youre not getting a lot of the stereotypical, Id say. The first time I came was in 90, I want to say 91. This is the number one reason Jamaicans gave for why so many people think were downright mean. This was the mandate, I supposed in my little head (or was that taught to me also), of every Caribbean island. I mean, the Dominican (Republic) is embarrassed of their hate of Haitian people. The more bold and straightforward someone is the more they seem to be this way. Theres something very impressive about seeing history or seeing things that represent centuries around you, and in Ghana you see that in people. So you have quite an experience then with, way down South and back up North? It almost sounds like it wasnt as bad and you talked about the, gender roles, and so on. Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Culture / Ghanians Why Do U Pretend To Hate Nigerians, And Ethiopians Love Us? In Ghana, so thats what I would do in Ghana. Lets say youre walking through Spain and you seeing these historic buildings. The majority of Jamaicans arent. Going to work or school on a rainy day Mi wi cum, wen de rain ease up Ruth: Okay. Total myth. Xavier: You need to visit. Copyright Simbis Inc.All rights reserved.Privacy Policy & Terms of use. The same issues go for African American where they were made to feel discouraged about people of the islands and also Africa-that they differ. An intriguing and fascinating story; adopted from the book The ORIGINAL JAMAICAN Patois: Words, Phrases and Short Stories, Mi granny always used to sehJamaican Proverbs, Funny But True: Croaking Lizards and Jamaicans. But once you get it, youre there. They didnt need the new religion and they certainly didnt need to bake in the sun! Now, those of us from Jamaica, were like, But the person died. Ill introduce it to other Jamaicans and well have a blast just moving around. WebThis form of English is used in commerce, government, media and education. However, your observation of how that pride plays out is shallow and inaccurate. But yes, theres a good and bad side to everything. A Conversation with Pretty Girls Can Cook Author Shantelee Brown. It depends on your experience and identity. Learn how your comment data is processed. Xavier: It was near enough to the castles. sharp sharp indeed. If you look awful in that dress, we will tell you so and hurt your feelings. Just try not to catch us on a bad day, eh? It sits in a soup, in a very spicy soup. I cant fully explain it, but it just is. If youre LGBTQ then there is documented truth to Jamaican being hostile. Why is that? We are just not as sensitive as everyone else. When broken down into the sampling group, 61 per So me and my Jamaican crew, oh lord we get into trouble all the time. Then figure out what the total cost of the trip would be.? , Im not sure what that ladys problem was. Peoples behavior represents centuries of behavior that was interrupted at some point, but it wasnt taken away. So one of the beautiful things about Ghana is that, they revere their elders. Spending everything on the BMW. Jamaican English tends to follow British But there's plenty of "traditionally" nice Jamaicans though lol, Ni-Ko-lis We-li-yams, MBA (@InTheNickATime) March 8, 2020. We're not mean, they're just soft. But, its all familiar and its all similar. If she don't move herself .. , I'm DYING because I'm reading this while you have your name set to "Passive Aggressive"!!! And I was like, no, but the Virgin Mary just didnt have a baby. Yes. Germany, consistent with the logic of echo chambers. Xavier: So food, lets talk food. It was very enlightening. Yes. Xavier: You know, I saw you when I got there. What do you like most about Ghana? WebThis decision has generated more poverty for the people because while salary remains stagnant, transportation and cost of food has jumped up badly. What do you miss the most about Jamaica? Ruth: I dont have many but there are two common ones. Jamaican men can try to boss Jamaican women around all they like, but unlike America, we have a predominantly Black Matriarchal culture. Xavier: So my next question to you is, so what do you like? FOH, Go, get a damm haircut, and learn where in Africa jamaicans came from , youre a damm fool, Instead of writing this load of crap Why does the author not ask Jamaicans to stop stealing the $4million reported by LIME to stop stealing the copper wire for residents of Manchester to have service. You can never go clockwise when youre saying hello to people. Never before have I ever heard so much ignorance or seen such lies put on the internet. There, its very hierarchical. But in traditional Ghana, our children wouldnt even inherit from him. But, were they really? Ruth: In Jamaica the biggest sin is what? Maybe you should, but half the time were just playing around. I can see why the Jamaicans youve met have not liked you. Peace out. Xavier: Wow. America and Canada are a different story. We're honest. Haha.I would say direct & passionate instead. Joining Lines & Line Cutters Beg yuh a bli nuh, mi cyan stan up lang caw mi hab gas inna mi foot I guess home is where the family is too. But dont sort of show up here and fire away, brap! They believe that if youre maintaining peace, its okay to delay the truth or to color the truth. WebThe ethnogenesis of the Black Jamaican people stemmed from the Atlantic slave trade of the 16th century, when enslaved Africans were transported as slaves to Jamaica and Don't let the frown scare you. Too well,in fact,if you know what I mean. But any, maybe one tip youd seh (say), if youre moving here, what would the one thing youd seh (say). Theyre very proud of their shape, but its covered. I appreciate your outlook and will say that we get on much better with Canadians than Americans, in Jamaica. So, you dont see people walking around, grown women walking around with their thigh [sound break] is showing or was and I miss having a whole beach culture saying, lets, come wi (we) go beach nuh (no)?. Kirk Campbell, I didnt say s law , dummy. They say the British hate hearing butchered American English. They might tell someone their question is dumb but go on to ask an even dumber question but dont dare try to tell them theirs was dumb. This all feeds into the done up looking good sexy thing. So, Ive lived overseas off and on quite a bit. I am sorry that that has been your experience with Jamaicans, but I cannot say the same as someone born and raised in the country and who has lived in two other countries since then. Reprisal killings make up a significant portion of our murder rate in Jamaica. I have ALWAYS known that the East Indies had a problem with the Jamaican ( Cuban and Haitian). In Ghana when somebody dies, theres an entire protocol that goes around with announcing that the person has died. Im In Double Trouble With My Love Interests, Winning Return To The Ring For Jamaicas Axeman, Unconscionable for Taxpayers to Fund Politics, Frontier Airlines Launches More Flights to Montego Bay, Jamaica, Jamaica Removes Visa-Free Transit Privilege For Cuban Nationals. We may not coddle or preen but we still care about you. The UK does not count as "farrin". The language has a distinctive rhythmic and melodic quality. 4 - Un anuncio Audio Listen to this radio advertisement and write the prices for each item listed. Just easy yourself and itll be Jamaica; no problem, I come with baggage (@aly_berry1) March 8, 2020, So, what did she want you to say? believe that Jamaicans think they are better than Africans and Su (so), my next question to you is this one, how did you end up in Ghana? Plus we really don't like when people ask, what we would consider a stupid question and our irritation comes out in our response. Mi cya come. (I said, no boy I book already you know. Again ot all are like this of course, but its a trend. Stock Photos from Photos.com, iStockPhotos.com, 123rf. A teacher walks into the Classroom and says If only Yesterday was Tomorrow Today would have been a Saturday Which Day did the Teacher make this Statement? It is therefore not DNA based but a pure sociological ill that can be address frontally. Ghana is rather homogenous. The other one that I used to get quite often and it would make me laugh. Were aggressive, but not mean. Xavier: Winding down and heres one of the questions. Ruth: Yu (you) cannot be a hypocrite, right? Dance through down. I think youve covered it all. She had a baby. Ruth: Im good Xavier. But let me say this on the flip side, and you said something that was very interesting. 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